Fuck this day

"ImmoralMinority" (araimondo) 08/30/2019 at 22:28 • Filed to: None

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I spent a couple of hours at a dairy today and it was depressing. The family is in dire straits. They are at risk in our case because they overpaid their workers. Everyone agrees they work about 10.5 hours per day. The dairy calculated 10 hours at minimum wage (10 hours is the regular ag day) and 2 hours of overtime every day (more than they ever worked) and paid them this every 2 week pay period, even though it was more hours than they actually worked. Every check stub shows 100-110 hours of regular pay, and 20-22 overtime hours, depending on how many days they worked. (Stability of pay and incentive for staying on the milking schedule is why they do this.).

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The lawyers on the other side make the semantic distinction that this is a “salary,” and claim unpaid wages. The California Labor Code says a “salary” for a non-exempt employee provides no compensation for overtime hours at all. So they claim minimum wage, plus overtime is due for all of the hours over 10 in a day, plus a shitload of penalties. If we lose, the dairy is bankrupt. I ran the numbers, and the workers made more than if they had been paid minimum wage (milking is aminikum wage job) and OT for their actual hours, and they also got free housing and utilities paid. It is very stupid. And sad. I can’t get the family’s faces out of my mind - especially the son, in his 20s, working his ass off for no future.

These are the days that are hard in this job 

WilliamsSW > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 22:45

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What the ever loving fuck?  It took me three reads to figure out what the angle was.  Who hired these assholes?

Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 22:50

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Wait , I guess I dont follow, but I dont know this industry well, especially in CA. W here do the unpaid wages come in and how is that affected by being salary or not? How/why w ould they overpay the workers but then have them claim that wages were unpaid?

S orry if these are stupid questions haha

MrDakka > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 22:52

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Work only .5 hour of overtime and get paid 2 hrs worth of overtime. WTF?!

Where I’m from, one might call this embezzlement, but only rich people can be guilty of that, right? 

shop-teacher > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 22:58

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Man, that's heavy. My best to them.

PowderHound > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 23:10

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You’re in California right? I don’t know how close to Montclair you are but you should probably go see black flag there tomorrow For a nice night off. I’ve noticed the sticker on the sun chaser and at still on a kick from seeing them last night -end humble brag

GLiddy > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 23:11

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When the government has put all of the dairies out of business, we can just get all of our melamine, err I mean milk, from China.

DipodomysDeserti > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 23:20

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So the labor pool is shallow enough that farmers have to guarantee hours, which puts them in a weird California (über alles) labor law grey area. And Americans are too cheap to pay what milk is actually worth (a hell of a lot more than the current market price, especially when you factor in environmental costs). Then opportunistic lawyers move in.

America, fuck yeah. [sad trombone]

My family’s business went under while I was working my ass off in my twenties. Thankfully I was able to put myself through college thanks to an academic scholarship. Still busting my ass, but so is life.

DipodomysDeserti > GLiddy 08/30/2019 at 23:22

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Nah, our government puts family dairies out of business so you can buy bullshit milk from Shamrock Farms. Most cheap ass Americans gladly take the savings.

Svend > ImmoralMinority 08/30/2019 at 23:25

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Shit man. All too often the good guys lose.

I hope something can be done to turn it around.

Here’s an interesting thing on U.K. Sunchasers you may like or already know.

Looking at the ‘F’ on the licence plate on the blue one at the bottom right, above picture. It looks like it made it’s way to the Falkland Islands. What I can make out ‘F 845-’. 

Falkland Islands licence plate.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > ImmoralMinority 08/31/2019 at 08:07

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This strikes me as one of those cases where only a lawyer can win . As in, ONLY one lawyer, no-one else . And even if you win then that lawyer isn’t you...

I’d like to say Only In America...but I’d be wrong.

CaptDale - is secretly British > ImmoralMinority 09/03/2019 at 01:22

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Why would anyone even be fighting them on this? That is what I don’t get. People get paid = good

People get paid more than they should make = very good

Getting paid more and housing and utilities = fuck I might want to work for them

.... So who benefits from this other than the other attorneys when they get fees if you lose?